tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post7618041362856638181..comments2023-12-26T23:07:08.005-08:00Comments on TOMORROWVILLE: And, Just for Fun...Expostion Part VIII (and final)David Isaakhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-63328643576200592532008-02-12T00:54:00.000-08:002008-02-12T00:54:00.000-08:00"So Ed and I told our mother and father we were no..."So Ed and I told our mother and father we were normal, and they did not bother to look deeper."<BR/><BR/>One of my new Favoritest Lines Ever.<BR/><BR/>('Course, it'd sound pretentious in a Work of Speculative Fiction.)Jake Jessonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06834903087805267419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-71045899754000884742008-01-08T15:42:00.000-08:002008-01-08T15:42:00.000-08:00Hi, Jeremy--I think that's a good way of looking a...Hi, Jeremy--<BR/><BR/>I think that's a good way of looking at it (if we allow for the idea that "real time" can jump around for things like flashbacks).David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-59027432041934674382008-01-08T13:25:00.000-08:002008-01-08T13:25:00.000-08:00At risk of confusing something David has graciousl...At risk of confusing something David has graciously shared, here's another way to distinguish Exposition & Telling from Dramatization & Showing:<BR/><BR/>TIME.<BR/><BR/>Is the material taking place in "real-time" with respect to the POV?<BR/><BR/>If 'yes,' then we have a case of dramatization.<BR/><BR/>If 'no,' then we *probably* have a case of exposition, or telling.<BR/><BR/>To clarify what I mean by "real-time," imagine every story having a clock, analogous to the game-clocks used in American Football. When a play is run, and players are in actual conflict on the field, the clock is ticking. In between plays (or during commercial breaks), the clock stops. But the commentators will still have plenty to share about the game with the audience, even when the clock isn't ticking. Think of this "in between plays" commentary as exposition, and think of the action on the field as dramatization.<BR/><BR/>Am I making any sense?Jeremy Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254147824518501318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-10886757766032756372008-01-08T12:13:00.000-08:002008-01-08T12:13:00.000-08:00Hi, Sam--Exposition = TellingDramatization = Showi...Hi, Sam--<BR/><BR/>Exposition = Telling<BR/><BR/>Dramatization = Showing<BR/><BR/>My whole point is that exposition can be done in a manner that is vibrant and appealing--and can sometimes convey information both more economically and more entertainingly than dramatization. <BR/><BR/>These passages may "feel" like showing rather than telling. But they aren't. They are telling. Brilliant telling.David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-50326751399343519702008-01-08T11:39:00.000-08:002008-01-08T11:39:00.000-08:00I guess I'm just strange, but a lot of this doesn'...I guess I'm just strange, but a lot of this doesn't really feel like "telling" to me. Because it has people and images attached to it, with peculiar details, it feels like a very zoomed-out scene, where the author is "showing" me back story.<BR/><BR/>So I'm not sure if this supports your attack on showing vs. telling in exposition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-10148173046919393162008-01-01T12:10:00.000-08:002008-01-01T12:10:00.000-08:00And a fruitful New Year to you as well, Alis. You'...And a fruitful New Year to you as well, Alis. You're off to a good start, certainly.<BR/><BR/>Now let's see how long it takes Amazon UK to get my copy of "Testament" over here. (I only received LC Tyler's book yesterday, but received Peter Anthony's at the same time. The ways of Amazon are mysterious indeed.)David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-39306433602920808792008-01-01T06:43:00.000-08:002008-01-01T06:43:00.000-08:00Just to add my thanks for these posts on expositio...Just to add my thanks for these posts on exposition - they really have been great! Happy New Year, David - I hope it's a really fruitful one for you!Alishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18406189984167289987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-19365282475556076442007-12-31T10:31:00.001-08:002007-12-31T10:31:00.001-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-62809814413983078212007-12-31T10:31:00.000-08:002007-12-31T10:31:00.000-08:00Hi, Tim--Yes, I'm sure everyone will want to read ...Hi, Tim--<BR/><BR/>Yes, I'm sure everyone will want to read everything by these folks. And it would seem to be fairly easy in three of the cases. MSF has two books on the table, Brian only one (though he has a couple in his hip pocket that will be appearing soon), and Jonathan Drapes only has <I>Beige</I> so far (Hello? Jonathan? Where have you gone? Some of us saved up all our lunch money for months waiting for your next one...)<BR/><BR/>You'll have a hard time reading all of Aliya, though. Not only does she have her MNW book and a second soon to appear, but she also has the novella I quoted from (available from Bluechrome Press), and any number of stories that she dashes off and scatters like leaves all across media-space. In multiple genres. And she co-writes with Neil Ayres, too, just to stay busy. <BR/><BR/>She makes me feel like such a slacker.David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-47445028044967329602007-12-31T00:44:00.000-08:002007-12-31T00:44:00.000-08:00But who are these fine writers, David? All your r...But who are these fine writers, David? All your readers will want to read everything they've written, as well as everything else produced by such discerning publishers...<BR/><BR/>This has been an enlightening series of posts. It's good to see a meticulously evidenced counterblast to the creative writing dogma that everything must be showed, and nothing told.Tim Strettonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08598897603628943741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-25045279373638000592007-12-30T09:45:00.000-08:002007-12-30T09:45:00.000-08:00Thanks, Jeremy. I can't wait to see what you do wi...Thanks, Jeremy. I can't wait to see what you do with this!<BR/><BR/>Hi, May! We had a wonderful break.David Isaakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04928598446742324391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-30053679342909186852007-12-30T04:17:00.000-08:002007-12-30T04:17:00.000-08:00I am glad that you're back. I have been missing yo...I am glad that you're back. I have been missing you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-73218933042795980462007-12-29T12:59:00.000-08:002007-12-29T12:59:00.000-08:00Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.This is probably t...Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.<BR/><BR/>This is probably the best ever series of blog posts ever written on pretty much any one topic.<BR/><BR/>I am very indebted to you for so graciously sharing all of this awesome knowledge on psychic distance and exposition (and it couldn't have come at a better time in my manuscript).<BR/><BR/>Wow. Simply, wow!Jeremy Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254147824518501318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8371628584376797540.post-34222886599353180332007-12-29T12:57:00.000-08:002007-12-29T12:57:00.000-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeremy Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11254147824518501318noreply@blogger.com